Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry. |
those of you who know me know that
1) i have a bad temper i have a hard time controlling,
and 2) i am an athiest but can respect other people's religious beliefs, but sort of go thru the roof when Christians proselytize.
My aunt is a Christian minister, and i have a few christian friends and blah blah blah, so it's not like i act out on my prejudice against Christianity, though i do admit to having one, but I do try to be understanding about people's beliefs, just like i try not to have a bad temper. but holy shit, i am so upset right now i feel like i'm gonna pass out from anger. i'm about to share an Etsy conversation i had with someone I bought a shirt from. and please, if you disagree with how i treated this person (I said I wasn't gonna leave bad feedback for them, but since they never got back to me about that, and i hated the shirt I bought from them so much, i ended up leaving bad feedback anyway, and i know that's not the most dignified thing to do, perhaps, but i was just pissed about this whole exchange so i left the bad feedback anyway), please don't let me know right now. i really don't want to hear anything negative about how i handled this situation, i just want to post it on here because i'm so pissed and have no other outlet at the moment.
Here goes (business name taken out):
Hi,
I ordered 2 t-shirts from you and I haven't received them yet, though I think I may have received an email saying they were being shipped. So I just wanted to know if you shipped them, and if so, when, and by what method.
thanks!
xxxx
Dec 5, 2012
Hi thank you for your order! we apologize for
the delay we have just been extremely busy with orders and we have been
working as quickly as possible in the order they are received. Your
package is being shipped out today Priority Mail through USPS, We are
also located in California your should probably be receiving is as soon
as tomorrow if not definitely by Friday. We thank you again for your
patience your business is much appreciated. =)
xxxxx
xxxxx
yeah, i think i saw that you are in monrovia, and
i live pretty close (and used to live in monrovia, on huntington).
sounds good. just wanted to make sure and hadn't already been
delivered.
xxx
Dec 9, 2012
Hi, can I return the navy elephant shirt I bought
-- I'm very unhappy with it. It's almost impossible to see the print.
I know I chose the color navy but I just assumed the print would be
visible on the shirt, I didn't know the navy would be so dark or thought
that if it was darker, a different ink color would be used to make the
elephant visible, the way the shirt on you site has red ink for the
elephant on the yellow t-shirt, not black ink on a near-black t-shirt.
xxx
Dec 9, 2012
Hi yes we only use the red wine ink on the gold
Navy is more on the darker side but customers order this combo from time to time and always do our best to fulfill our customers request no matter which color and ink setup. We can exchange for you no problem, There is a restocking fee because we would no longer be able to reuse this shirt but I will discount it to 50% since you did not know how dark navy was but navy is dark. We will also discount the shipping costs 50%. Please go ahead and select a new shirt with ink from the listing, You will receive a brand new shirt in a new style. We will invoice you for $7.45 to cover the shipping costs and restocking fee. Thank you for your business. There is no need to send the shirt back since we cannot use it any more and it will be counted as a loss.
Thank you
xxxx
Navy is more on the darker side but customers order this combo from time to time and always do our best to fulfill our customers request no matter which color and ink setup. We can exchange for you no problem, There is a restocking fee because we would no longer be able to reuse this shirt but I will discount it to 50% since you did not know how dark navy was but navy is dark. We will also discount the shipping costs 50%. Please go ahead and select a new shirt with ink from the listing, You will receive a brand new shirt in a new style. We will invoice you for $7.45 to cover the shipping costs and restocking fee. Thank you for your business. There is no need to send the shirt back since we cannot use it any more and it will be counted as a loss.
Thank you
xxxx
Dec 10, 2012
Hi, no, I am unhappy with the t-shirt so I don't
want to order another item from you even at a discounted amount, but
thank you. I have a shop too so I can appreciate that you tried to come
up with a resolution even though it's one I'm not happy w/ (yes navy is
a darker color but every company's 'navy' is different; I have probably
3 pieces of clothing right now that are considered navy, and none of
them are as dark as that t-shirt, so I think it was reasonable for me to
assume when I asked for that color that it was not going to be too dark
to see the elephant print on it, the way it is), so I'm not going to
leave negative feedback.
xxxxx
16 hours ago
As from the history of our conversations you were
not happy with the elephant shirt. We offered to exchange the shirt at
a 50% discounted rate and for you to keep the shirt. We know you were
not happy with the shirt and we really tried to work it out with you but
you refused and said you own a shop and will not leave bad feedback
because you appreciated that we tried to work it out and resolve the
issue, But you went back on your word and left us 2 bad feedbacks which
is very unfair, because now you lied to us. I dont know if you just
forgot what you said or not. We will offer a partial refund for the
elephant shirt of 50% for the shirt. We only want to provide a positive
experience to all our customers but we would like for you to revise the
feedback and send us a kiss and makeup. We have not had a chance to
leave feedback for you yet. Bad feedback is only a last resort when
problems cannot be worked out and do not appreciate that you went back
on your word when we were only try to fix a problem. We will await in a
timely manner for your response.
Thank you
xxx
Thank you
xxx
yeah, it seemed pretty lame that you never
thanked me for agreeing not to leave bad feedback before in my last
email, when i expressed that i was really unhappy with that elephant
shirt and the "deal" you offered. since you never wrote anything back
like 'yeah it sucks that you were unhappy w/ the product and w/ our
offer to sell you another shirt at a discount, but thanks for saying you
won't give us negative feedback,' i figured you must not care, so i
thought i might as well be honest about the bad experience i had with
your online store. man, the photo shown for the elephant t-shirt when
it shows our sale is an awesome shirt -- it has burgandy ink on a gold
shirt and it looks really good, not like the waste of $20 shirt I ended
up buying from you, the pitch black elephant on the near pitch black
shirt. i still don't understand why you didn't just take the shirt back
-- i guess it's because you'd be taking a loss, but you also said in
that email that people have ordered black printed animals on dark navy
shirts, so I'd think you could just have kept that hsirt that I'd
returned (it doesn't take up much space) and refunded me, not offered to
sell me another shirt at a discounted price. my guess is that you guys
are young, and i really wanted to nurture your store by keeping my
mouth shut about what a bad experience i had w/ my purchase w/ you, but
you weren't gracious enough to send a follow up email, and that
graciousness would have gone a long way. i just dropped that elephant
shirt off at the out of the closet on sunset as a donation this
afternoon in fact because it's an absolutely shirt to me. so, i don't
know, maybe next time someone says they're really unhappy w/ their
dealings w/ you but won't give you a negative review, you should show
them that that means something to you instead of just never sending any
follow up. yeah we're all diy on here and blah blah blah but there's
still such a thing as courtesy, an why should i protect your reputation
if you don't seem to care about it.
xxxx
January 14 2013 8:54pm EDT
We are of course thankful if you did not leave
bad feedback but we thought we would just leave it at that. We do care
about our customers and feedback. You stated you also have a shop so we
would expect for you to know the feeling of receiving negative feedback.
You have a great start for your shop with established feedback and
sales. There are many great ways to promote your shop and free ways of
advertisement that are guaranteed to bring sales and have been proven to
work. Well there is no need to attack us on a personal level by
calling us young, or to say we dont care, because for one I am not that
young and I do care, To back on your word does make us feel that you do
not care that we really tried to work things out, but left it off as it
still being your word. Feedback is important and can never leave anyone
bad feedback unless we were ripped off of cheated., It is a last resort
and very unlike us but we have done what we can to try and fix the
problem. You even left a neutral for the other item just because you
were upset about the elephant and that item had nothing to do with this
issue. So this is the last time I will reach out to you with this
message. We dont want there to be any hard feelings. I dont know if you
follow Jesus Chris but he said we are to forgive each other and love
our neighbor as our self and not let pride get in the way. Its nothing
that you lied to me, for I am nothing, but there is someone much greater
that we will all have to answer to one day. God bless you
xxxx
January 15 2013 11:17am EDT
(person's name), i think it's incredibly offensive that you
would bring religion into such a minor, piddling affair as my and your
disagreement over your product and customer service. Do you really
think it's appropriate to threaten me w/ the idea of being judged
because I behaved in a way you disagree with? I feel truly and
seriously disgusted with you right now -- how dare you invoke God like
that, like he's on your side because you're in the right, over such a
MINOR thing as this disagreement we had? it's truly disgusting to me. i
did the "kiss and make up" thing for your shop. I hope I never meet
you in person and I never hear from you again -- I really can't stand
when people use religion and God in conversation as manipulatively as
you just did. you don't own God. He belongs to everyone, and he
really, really doesn't take sides over stupid crap like Etsy customer
service disputes.
addendum: I've had a few hours to calm down. but I still wanted to share his most recent response to the above (admittedly ridiculous) string of writing:
Jesus Christ is the way the truth and life and no man cometh unto the father but through him
May God bless you.
xxx
How fucking tempted to write back to him write now (I won't engage anymore -- believe it or not, I do have some self control) the lyrics to the classic Iron Maiden song:
xxx
Torches blazed and sacred chants were phrased
As they start to cry hands held to the sky
In the night the fires are burning bright
The ritual has begun Satan's work is done
666 the number of the beast, sacrifice is going on tonight
xxx
okay, all for now???
...
xox Robin
addendum: I've had a few hours to calm down. but I still wanted to share his most recent response to the above (admittedly ridiculous) string of writing:
Jesus Christ is the way the truth and life and no man cometh unto the father but through him
May God bless you.
xxx
How fucking tempted to write back to him write now (I won't engage anymore -- believe it or not, I do have some self control) the lyrics to the classic Iron Maiden song:
xxx
Torches blazed and sacred chants were phrased
As they start to cry hands held to the sky
In the night the fires are burning bright
The ritual has begun Satan's work is done
666 the number of the beast, sacrifice is going on tonight
xxx
okay, all for now???
...
xox Robin